Suggestions/Comments (alpha 2)

[sekira]

I decided to comment out the code that lets your wis work as str when unarmed when you have Strength through Spirit ability, and instead, add this code immediately before the calc_stats(1) call

	-- Monk's Strength through Spirit.
   	if (p_ptr.abilities[(CLASS_MONK * 10) + 1] >= 1 and unarmed()) then
		local totalwis
		totalwis = p_ptr.stat_cur[A_WIS+1] + p_ptr.stat_add[A_WIS+1] + p_ptr.stat_mut[A_WIS+1]
		if (p_ptr.wis_boost_dur > 0) then totalwis = totalwis + p_ptr.wis_boost end
		local wbonus

		wbonus = p_ptr.abilities[(CLASS_MONK * 10) + 1] * 10
		if (wbonus > 100) then wbonus = 100 end

		p_ptr.stat_add[A_STR+1] = p_ptr.stat_add[A_STR+1] + multiply_divide(totalwis, wbonus, 100)
		
   	end

This really makes the monk more viable as a melee character, and also the higher str lets him punch through walls (super block breaking anyone?) Without this change, as far as I can tell, Strength through spirit only affects the number of blows you get unarmed, and not the damage you do. Didn't seem to fit the Ability description.

Also, I am really tired of getting Ki Punch as a monk so I can kill ghosts, and then not being able to hit them while they stand in a wall. I replaced the code for ki punch with this

  -- Ki Punch
  if (powernum == 12) then

	local dam
	local dir
	local dir_x
	local dir_y

	if (not(unarmed())) then

                msg_print("You must be unarmed to use this ability.")
                return
        end

	-- We need to choose a direction to attack. If used as combat feat,
	-- this won't be asked.
	dir = lua_get_rep_dir()
	-- Determine the coordinates where we will look for a monster.
	if (dir == 0) then return end
	if (dir == 1) then
		dir_x = px - 1
		dir_y = py + 1
	end
	if (dir == 2) then
		dir_x = px
		dir_y = py + 1
	end
	if (dir == 3) then
		dir_x = px + 1
		dir_y = py + 1
	end
	if (dir == 4) then
		dir_x = px - 1
		dir_y = py
	end
        -- shouldn't be possible...
	if (dir == 5) then
		dir_x = px
		dir_y = py
	end
	if (dir == 6) then
		dir_x = px + 1
		dir_y = py
	end
	if (dir == 7) then
		dir_x = px - 1
		dir_y = py - 1
	end
	if (dir == 8) then
		dir_x = px
		dir_y = py - 1
	end
	if (dir == 9) then
		dir_x = px + 1
		dir_y = py - 1
	end
	dam = monk_damages()
	dam = dam + multiply_divide(dam, ((p_ptr.abilities[(CLASS_MONK * 10) + 3]) * 20), 100)

	melee_attack = TRUE
	no_magic_return = TRUE
    	-- chain_attack(dir, GF_MISSILE, dam, 0, 1)
	fire_ball_specific_grid(dam, dir_x, dir_y, 0, GF_MISSILE)
	no_magic_return = FALSE
	melee_attack = FALSE

    	energy_use = 100;
  end

I really feel like ki punch should work against enemies standing in a wall. It is a melee attack right? regular melee attacks hit monsters standing inside a wall, so why not this and other melee attack type abilities? I've said something about this before, as I really feel like it is a bug, not a suggestion, but then nothing was done about it so I decided to put it here this time around.

[Gando]

I'm doing (or rather trying to do) the end of the Stealthy Vipers Quest line and getting really frustrated. Is it really necessary for bosses to be able to phase door on Quest levels when the same ability is denied the player? Just seems so unfair. Also not thrilled with the W being a cr3 guy that is completely unbeatable but that's another issue altogether. (Talk about making a griefer ending. )

[Gando]

Also dying STILL does not heal drained stats. This seems like a complete hose.

[Gando]

Oh and to complete the screw, the type '4' buildings are bugged so that they do not fill up instead endlessly looping through bad potion bugs in lua until ESC is pressed so there is NO way to restore broken stats if you don't have the spell.

[Gando]

The topper is it took me over 1000 tries at the black market before I found a potion of restore stats (no books ever showed at all so I couldn't learn the spell). Complete and utter waste of time.

[Variaz]

May 8, 2011 22:47:12 GMT -5 Gando said:

I'm doing (or rather trying to do) the end of the Stealthy Vipers Quest line and getting really frustrated. Is it really necessary for bosses to be able to phase door on Quest levels when the same ability is denied the player? Just seems so unfair. Also not thrilled with the W being a cr3 guy that is completely unbeatable but that's another issue altogether. (Talk about making a griefer ending. )

You can still jump...

Currently, CR3 as a whole, as I mentionned before, is very difficult to beat with the current basic classes, and advanced classes will be required to stand a better chance. I am aware that this boss is too difficult at the moment(even I had to set it's hp to 1% in the r_info just so I could test it, as it was too powerful for my Rogue at level 30).

For now, I'd say to gain a couple more levels, and try to fight it at around level 40-45. When more classes becomes available in the future, it should even things out.

[Gando]

At 31 it is too hard to level in any kind of timely fashion. In fact I think I am just about done. Had no deaths up till that W. Time to final death and forget this.

[Variaz]

May 8, 2011 2:44:09 GMT -5 sekira said:

This really makes the monk more viable as a melee character, and also the higher str lets him punch through walls (super block breaking anyone?) Without this change, as far as I can tell, Strength through spirit only affects the number of blows you get unarmed, and not the damage you do. Didn't seem to fit the Ability description.

It actually affects damage. Just tried it in debug mode, and I confirm that the ability works as intended. It wasn't intended to actually raise your strength, and this does have the side effect of not affecting wall-bashing.

I really feel like ki punch should work against enemies standing in a wall. It is a melee attack right? regular melee attacks hit monsters standing inside a wall, so why not this and other melee attack type abilities? I've said something about this before, as I really feel like it is a bug, not a suggestion, but then nothing was done about it so I decided to put it here this time around.

The "can't hit walls" thing isn't really intended, more of a side effect of using "chain_attack", as magic "chains" are supposed to stop at walls, and not actually hit them. Though something could probably be done about this...

[sekira]

May 8, 2011 23:22:14 GMT -5 Variaz said:

May 8, 2011 2:44:09 GMT -5 sekira said:

This really makes the monk more viable as a melee character, and also the higher str lets him punch through walls (super block breaking anyone?) Without this change, as far as I can tell, Strength through spirit only affects the number of blows you get unarmed, and not the damage you do. Didn't seem to fit the Ability description.

It actually affects damage. Just tried it in debug mode, and I confirm that the ability works as intended. It wasn't intended to actually raise your strength, and this does have the side effect of not affecting wall-bashing.

Why shouldn't it affect wall bashing? The whole idea I have had in my mind of martial artists being able to channel their inner will or energy or chi (Strength through spirit!) is when I see them.... Break boards and break blocks of stone and blocks of ice and so on and so forth... Plus, instead of having wisdom affect your "effective str" for combat purposes only... why not just do the simple thing and let it affect strength directly? It is a more simple and more understandable mechanic. This whole "effective str" thing just seems like "invisible str" to me, you can't really see what you are getting. Very frustrating.

I really feel like ki punch should work against enemies standing in a wall. It is a melee attack right? regular melee attacks hit monsters standing inside a wall, so why not this and other melee attack type abilities? I've said something about this before, as I really feel like it is a bug, not a suggestion, but then nothing was done about it so I decided to put it here this time around.

The "can't hit walls" thing isn't really intended, more of a side effect of using "chain_attack", as magic "chains" are supposed to stop at walls, and not actually hit them. Though something could probably be done about this...

Well, that is how it is for most melee type abilities (and skill feats, when they still were around). I really hope this is fixed in the next realease. If you have that Angel's shortsword that does light damage, and you try to use accurate strike to hit a ghost in the wall... well, nothing happens there either. Using a range 1 radius 0 chain attack to simulate a melee strike is just not a good idea. Unless you plan to fix chain attack so that it hits the wall if it is radius 0 and doesn't if it is radius > 0, then that would work fine.

[khan]

Remembered my mystic dwarf crafter and wondered if the was a place for him in the new version?

Chert Blue-Quartz

Home: Jindar.
Ability 1:
For a price he will craft any non-magic item if you provide the components.
Ability 2:
For a price he will decompose any item into it's components.

I haven't play tested him much apart from to check that it works.
The dialog doesn't seem to work quite how I want it to, but the result do work.

I'm not sure how he will effect play balance - the 1st ability seems fine from when I used him in alpha 1, but I have suspicions that the 2nd ability in combination with the first might be unbalancing.

I have put all the additions together in one text file and attach it here.

Attachments:

[khan]

I was just trying to debug my Chert Blue-Quartz script and I noticed Cleo's Misfortune transfer.

I've not seen this before, where is Cleo?

This could solve my gripe about so many good items that I find being unusable, due to the specific character build. I have to admit though I am put of by the idea of gaining misfortune.

A possible alternative is to allow a complete transfer of abilities to a mundane item, without additional misfortune (although you could transfer any misfortune already on the 2nd item), but attach a gold cost perhaps twice the sum of the values of the two items involved.

[Variaz]

Cleo can be found in the Ophelia town, north of Jindar, if you take the correct path in that questline(there's multiple paths).

I warn you that this hasn't been tested in the current release, so I'm not sure if it will work well.

May 17, 2011 9:21:58 GMT -5 khan said:

This could solve my gripe about so many good items that I find being unusable, due to the specific character build. I have to admit though I am put of by the idea of gaining misfortune.

It will make perfect sense though once you go through the quest! (if you take the correct path)

[Gando]

Wow I thought I took that quest line all the way...Whatd I miss? (It has been a great while)

[Variaz]

May 17, 2011 17:25:05 GMT -5 Gando said:

Wow I thought I took that quest line all the way...Whatd I miss? (It has been a great while)

Eventually, you come across a scene between two persons. At this point, you must choose who you want to kill, and you can choose to kill either person A, person B, or both. Depending on the choice, you will get a different path. Two of them will lead to an artifact(a different one for both paths), the other will lead to Cleo.

I will have to rework that quest. Both by making sure that Cleo doesn't provide a broken service, but also give an opportunity to the player to restart the quest somehow, as Cleo is a character that can share some valuable lore about...stuff(don't want to spoil too much here), and could also be an interesting character, and give the player some quests.

[Gando]

OK I admit I am stumped. I've obtained both artifacts but I can't seem to get a third result at all. If I opt to not kill the mayor I get no further messages from the game concerning the quest. I figured going back to the temple after finding the blood would be enough but apparently that isn't so and talking to the mayor gives no leads. If you left clues they are too subtle for me.