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Post by Variaz on Nov 15, 2010 18:48:01 GMT -5
As long as this trick can't be abused to kill every monsters in the game.
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Post by khan on Nov 15, 2010 19:09:31 GMT -5
Its not a very reliable tactic as every so often, you will fire at them and then they will come around the corner and then get another action (ie death vs NS). Also it is very hard to pull of against multiple monsters and is useless against bosses, that you meet in a big room. Only really works against single monsters when you have time to lure them to some twisty corridors.
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Post by challtdow on Nov 20, 2010 15:04:19 GMT -5
The blade dancer line of monsters seem to be just as overpowered as ever. I just 1-rounded Quasar on Shadow Kunoichi at lvl 28. 23 blows/round on each hand at 890-5518/blow with my current setup. I think he only hit me once and that was because he got a free shot when I jumped to him. Though he probably would have killed me if he had cast instead of trying to melee.
Chall T. Dow
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Post by Variaz on Nov 20, 2010 15:14:47 GMT -5
Hmm, not sure, what is your setup?
At level 28, with Shadow Kunoichi, you should get +4 blows. (+3 natural, +1 every 15 levels) The 19 others must come from something else.
But this line of monsters is pretty strong, yes. High speed, high evasion, melee/ranged and even magic attacks makes them quite deadly.
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Post by challtdow on Nov 20, 2010 15:19:16 GMT -5
Here's the dump from right after the win. The only extra attacks I had from equipment was the ring which I found right before going down the stair. I've since dropped it as it's not needed anyway.
[Portralis 0.5.0 Character Dump]
Name : Jade Alignment 0 STR: 32 150 0 182 Sex : Female Misfortune 0 INT: 5 23 0 28 Race : Shadow KunoicDeath Count 7 WIS: 5 18 0 23 Class : Monster Reincarnate 0 DEX: 33 171 0 204 Element : n/a CON: 6 53 0 59 Score : 1467 CHR: 5 22 0 27 Level 28 Max Hit Points 9606 Experience 48938 Cur Hit Points 9606 + To Hit 795 Max Exp 48938 Max SP (Mana) 68 + %To Damage 1254 Exp to Adv. 50000 Cur SP (Mana) 68 + To AC 53 Gold 137 Ability P 0 Stat Points 0 Blows/Round: 23 Skill Points 0 Blows/Round(2): 23 Class Level 10 Shots/Round: 1 Class Kills 1000 Wpn.dmg: 890-5518 Wpn2.dmg: 890-5518 Sht.dmg: n/a Sht2.dmg: n/a Infra-Vision: 0 feet (Character Background) 0 You are one of several monsters that lives in caves and dungeons. You try to visit the surface, and look for a better life. ---------- CHARACTER'S SKILLS ---------- --- MISC. INFO --- a) Fighting: 13 A) Polearms: 0 Wpn.dmg: 890-5518 b) Spellcraft: 5 B) Daggers: 0 Wpn2.dmg: 890-5518 c) Shooting: 0 C) Axes: 0 Sht.dmg: n/a d) Throwing: 0 D) Rods: 0 Sht2.dmg: n/a e) Defense: 23 E) Martial Arts: 0 To_h : 766 f) Agility: 115 F) Bow: 0 To_d : 1227 g) Stealth: 11 G) Crossbow: 0 To_a : 53 h) Combat Feats: 0 H) Firearms: 0 AC : 1259 i) Dual Wield: 70 I) Elemental: 0 j) Leadership: 1 J) Alteration: 0 k) Alchemy: 7 K) Mysticism: 0 Dual Wield: Yes l) Crafting: 0 L) Conjuration: 0 Press 'u' to toggle. m) Swords: 75 M) Divination: 0 n) Blunt: 0 N) Magic Defense: 82 Remaining skill points: 0 Press one of the letters to increase the skill. Press 'x' to view next skills page(if any). -------------- ABILITIES -------------- Greater Evolution [10] Improved Defense [10] Paragon Elder Monster [8] -------------- RESISTANCES -------------- Fire: 18 Cold: 20 Electric: 0 Acid: 0 Poison: 0 Light: 0 Darkness: 25 Warp: 0 Water: 0 Wind: 0 Earth: 0 Sound: 16 Radio: 14 Chaos: 0 Physical: 0 Mana: 0
[Miscellaneous information]
Maximize Mode: OFF Preserve Mode: OFF Autoscum: ON Small Levels: ON Arena Levels: ON Persistent Dungeons: OFF
Your body was a Shadow Kunoichi.
You have defeated 1714 enemies.
[Character Equipment]
a) an Ice Katana (L:4, K:17/20) (4d6) (+29,+27) (8 points.) b) an Ice Katana (L:4, K:17/20) (4d6) (+22,+34) (8 points.) e) a Ring of Extra Attacks f) a Ring of Sustain All (L:6, K:10/30) (+25,+25) (12 points.) k) an Amulet of the Ninja (+28,+32) m) (nothing) n) a Mithril Plate Mail (L:4, K:17/20) (+41,+43) [98,+12] (8 points.) o) an Elven Cloak (L:2, K:5/10) (+29,+29) [5,+13] (4 points.) p) an Ice Bracers (+22,+28) [0,+0] s) an Ice Helm (L:6, K:10/30) (+31,+31) [18,+7] (12 points.) u) a Pair of Ice Gauntlets (+24,+26) [8,+11] x) a Pair of Ice Boots (+30,+20) [8,+10] {) 30 Steel Tipped Arrows (2d3) (+19,+31) |) a Small Thunder Drum (2d6) (+14,+16)
[Character Inventory]
a) a Small Thunder Drum (2d6) (+26,+14) b) a Scroll of Word of Recall c) a Ring of Constitution (+3,+2) d) a Steel Bracers (+29,+37) [0,+0] e) an Amulet of Brilliance (+22,+22) f) an Amulet of the Serpents (+26,+24) g) an Amulet of Sacred Protection [5,+4] h) an Amulet of the Ninja (+33,+33) i) a Pair of Silk Gloves (+26,+24) [1,+12] j) a Steel Spear (1d10) (+27,+29) k) a Bronze Short Sword (1d5) (+18,+18) l) an Iron Hand Axe (1d5) (+12,+14) m) an Iron Short Pickaxe (2d5) (+15,+11) n) (nothing)
[Home Inventory (page 1)]
a) gold (46025 golds) b) The Horn of Unhealth (3d8) (+30,+30) c) 17 Scrolls of Word of Recall d) The Steel Shield 'Mirror of steel' (+25,+25) [30,+50] e) The Steel Shield 'Blue Guard' [10,+30] f) The Pair of Leather Boots 'Windstrider' [5,+15] g) (nothing)
Chall T. Dow
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Post by Variaz on Nov 20, 2010 15:52:28 GMT -5
Let's see here...
182 str and 204 dex = 193 average.
193 / 12(ice katana's weight) = +16 attacks
+3 from ring.
+4 from Kunoichi.
This gives us 23 attacks per rounds. It's not much the Shadow Kunoichi herself, more than the very high base stats of the Monster race that may be overpowered.
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