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Post by divinefistoka on May 23, 2008 21:32:13 GMT -5
Why was it removed, and can it be brought back? Additionally, Shouldn't artifacts that are on a character when they die in the dungeon re-seed? (the non-eternal ones, that is.) Technically, they could be picked up and carried around by monsters, so finding them again should be possible contingent to the way the game works. But this may just be my opinion. But losing an artifact cause i step down the stairs and then immediately recall is really annoying.
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Post by Variaz on May 24, 2008 21:06:00 GMT -5
I think it's enabled by default, but I'll have to check it, I'm really not sure if it's active or not.
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Post by divinefistoka on May 24, 2008 21:07:52 GMT -5
Unless it's changed since 172... its off by default and no way to access birth options that i can see.
Edit: Just checked, cant seem to find access to birth options in 021 either.
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Post by Variaz on May 24, 2008 21:10:53 GMT -5
Birth options were obsolete for the most part, since the auto-rollers and random quests don't exist anymore. Preserve mode I'll have to confirm later though, it may be disabled, but I don't think you can ever permanently miss an artifact you never found.
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Post by divinefistoka on Dec 15, 2008 10:22:59 GMT -5
I can confirm (though it may be out of date now) that if you enter a level, and check artifact listing, it will list artifacts on level WITHOUT YOU PICKIGN THEM UP(BUG) and if you leave the level without picking them up then they will NOT show up again. Preserve mode IS enabled, as you also get the 'special feeling' on levels with artifacts. IF you pick an artifact up, DO NOT ID it, and die, it will remain in rotation, but if you just don't pick it up, they're gone for good. If you pick an artifact up it ALSO vanishes from the list until it is ID'ed at which point it is added back. (A little late perhaps, but was valid in my last version of portralis.)
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Post by Variaz on Dec 15, 2008 19:33:16 GMT -5
To be honest, I have no clues whether it's there or not, or if it actually works if it is enabled.  |
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Post by divinefistoka on Dec 18, 2008 11:38:28 GMT -5
Im not so sure now either. I DO get artifacts on the level (not randarts obviously) displayed when i enter BUT BEFORE i find them. (or id them) Abjurers cloak showed up like that and i was forced to leave level. Ab jurers cloak turned up later... so preserve MIGHT be off but working? can't quite find the right terms to express this. IF you are preserving artifacts (the mode is a moot point now) then you should not get the 'this level feels special somehow' message. (especially since it overrides the danger-level messages (this level seems superb, or the older Zangband message 'horrible visions of death fill your mind') which means we have no clue how dangerous things on that level can get. You should ALSO try to make the seen artifacts list NOT list artifacts BEFORE you find them. those are the items that confused this issue... secondly, i'm also not sure if artifacts re-seed if you die rather then leaving the level without collecting... i saw bee sting on the list for floor 1 (and died before finding it) and it hasn't shown up in 5 runs through the basic first dungeon, or dabbling in others...
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